{"id":2235,"date":"2012-01-11T12:46:21","date_gmt":"2012-01-11T10:46:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/?p=2235"},"modified":"2012-01-11T12:48:58","modified_gmt":"2012-01-11T10:48:58","slug":"ces-full-hd-quad-fullhd-shv","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/?p=2235","title":{"rendered":"CES: Full-HD, Quad FullHD, SHV"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-Post Icon wp-image-2236\" title=\"bbc_and_nhk_logos_for_web\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/bbc_and_nhk_logos_for_web-64x64.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"64\" height=\"64\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/bbc_and_nhk_logos_for_web-64x64.jpg 64w, https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/bbc_and_nhk_logos_for_web-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/bbc_and_nhk_logos_for_web.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 64px) 100vw, 64px\" \/>Okay, you all know about FullHD. Nothing much to explain here. Quad FullHD<br \/>\nwith a resolution of 3840&#215;2160 pixels is about to come to us (also known as 4k)<br \/>\nBBC and NHK think, that\u00a0Quad FullHD isn&#8217;t satisfying enough for the upcoming<br \/>\nLondon Olympic games in 2012. SHV (Super Hi-Vision) is the answer!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Okay, let&#8217;s dig a bit into the basics.<\/p>\n<p>What are we talking about anyways? First get a look on the following image to see the dimensions:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/Scaling.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2237\" title=\"Scaling\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/Scaling-640x360.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/Scaling-640x360.png 640w, https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/Scaling-24x13.png 24w, https:\/\/blog.netspark.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/Scaling.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As you can clearly see, with each new standard, the amount of pixels multiply by 4.<\/p>\n<p>Today, the AVC-Codec rates at 40 Mbit\/s to transfer a FullHD picture at 24p lossless. That means, 5 MB\/s!<\/p>\n<p>The next-Gen TV where first devices get available this year, will be also served by an advanced version of the AVC.<br \/>\nWith up to 180 Mbit\/s a 4k picture at 3840&#215;2160 (Quad FullHD) will be displayed lossless. However the data rate jumps up to a whopping 22.5 MB\/s. For a classic bluray disc this means (if ever planned to do so&#8230;) only a mere 38 minute film would fit on a 50GB bluray-DL disc. BD-XE is on the roll already providing approx 120GB of capacity meaning that a 94 minutes film may fit on that disc. Sounds neat but no release date yet is known.<\/p>\n<p>For all those, if HDMI is capable of transferring these ridiculously high data rates&#8230; yes it is. 1.4a is capable of transferring 3840&#215;2160@24\u00a0while a new, yet unnamed updated HDMI specification (probably 1.5) allows the transfer of 3840&#215;2160@60 which is the full spectrum then.<\/p>\n<p>Okay enough bla bla on the last two specifications. BBC and NHK plan to show the London Olympic Games 2012 with the all-new SHV resolution on public viewing. What this means? Screens with a resolution of 7680&#215;4320 can be addressed allowing a ultra high definition of a picture.<\/p>\n<p>However I doubt that this will be fit for commerce until the next 5 years. Alone the fact that the video codec must be capable to transfer about 800 Mbit\/s or 100MB\/s requires a high-Capacity network to do so. And what about Bluray and it&#8217;s upcoming decessor? Well, let&#8217;s do some math:<\/p>\n<p>1920&#215;1080 -&gt; 40 Mbit\/s = 10240 seconds on a BD-DL and 25600 seconds on a BD-XE<br \/>\n3840&#215;2160 -&gt; 180 Mbit\/s = 2275 seconds on a BD-DL and 5688 seconds on a BD-XE<br \/>\n7680&#215;4320 -&gt; 800 Mbit\/s = 512 seconds on a BD-DL and 1280 seconds on a BD-XE<\/p>\n<p>And we have no audio yet! This is pure video in it&#8217;s compressed form.<\/p>\n<p>If we expand these numbers to uncompressed RGB images at 24bit color depth @24fps:<\/p>\n<p>1920x1080x3x24 = 149 MB\/s<br \/>\n3840x2160x3x24 = 597 MB\/s<br \/>\n7680x4320x3x24 = 2389 MB\/s (!)<\/p>\n<p>You can double the values for 50fps and multiply the values by 1.3 for 60fps!<\/p>\n<p>So if you imagine this, the computer serving the image processor must be capable of transferring 2GB\/s, possible with today&#8217;s graphics cards and processors. But stressing the hardware good, as I think! for 50fps and 60fps the air gets thin!<\/p>\n<p>And with HDMI? Well, I guess it will take some time until HDMI will be capable to transfer such data rates over the cable. I guess, a new standard will be released anyways.<\/p>\n<p>I also think\u00a0of high-Resolution displays such as the iPhone 4&#8217;s retina display. When applying SHV resolution, the display would measure\u00a056 by 40 cm which brings us to a diagonal diameter of 68cm or 27 inches. Quite impressive! A large display with hardly visible pixels! And even when the diameter is increased to 55 Inches, the pixels would be so tiny, that you wouldn&#8217;t see them at a suggested distance of 3.5 metres! Now THAT would be spectacular and photorealism will be nearer as you think. Okay let&#8217;s stop here. Dreamt enough about this!<\/p>\n<p>Conclusion: Nice idea but as long as not even FullHD is broadcasted over TV yet, there&#8217;s no need for SHV in my opinion. And be honest: Who wants to count Justin Bieber&#8217;s pimples when watching him on public broadcast shows as the ridiculous resolution will uncover even the finest detail.<\/p>\n<p>Summary: When you think, FullHD is the ultimate picture format, think again. And maybe in 20 years, our TV sets will not show ANY pixels anymore (or they&#8217;re so tiny that you need a good magnifying glass to spot them!).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Okay, you all know about FullHD. Nothing much to explain here. Quad FullHD with a resolution of 3840&#215;2160 pixels is about to come to us (also known as 4k) BBC and NHK think, that\u00a0Quad FullHD isn&#8217;t satisfying enough for the upcoming London Olympic games in 2012. 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